Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 27 January 2023 · 38 min

Audio Advertising Summit, Ken Bruce's transfer, DMG Media restructures & the bill that SLAPPs

With Michaela Hallam, Gideon Spanier, James Ball, Franz Wild, Adam Shepherd

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Matt Deegan hosts a special episode of The Media Club recorded live at Campaign's Radio and Audio Advertising Summit. Joined by Michaela Hallam of Fresh Air Production and Gideon Spanier, UK Editor-in-Chief of Campaign and Editorial Director of PodPod, they discuss the growing audio advertising opportunity, the departure of Ken Bruce from BBC Radio 2 to Greatest Hits Radio, and DMG Media's restructure of its advertising arm. The episode also features an interview with James Ball and Franz Wild of The Bureau of Investigative Journalism about a new bill in Parliament to tackle SLAPPs (strategic lawsuits against public participation), and a segment with Adam Shepherd, editor of PodPod, on City University's new MA in Podcasting. The show concludes with the first media quiz of 2023.

Key takeaways

  • Ken Bruce announced his departure from BBC Radio 2 to join Greatest Hits Radio, taking the PopMaster quiz with him.
  • DMG Media proposed a restructure of its advertising arm, citing a suppressed market that hasn't recovered as expected post-pandemic.
  • A new bill to tackle SLAPPs was put forward in Parliament, with cross-party support from MPs including David Davis and Margaret Hodge.
  • City University announced a new MA in Podcasting, covering production, business, and marketing aspects.
  • The Guardian faced criticism from audio freelancers over handling of a major project on the slave trade.

In this episode

  • Introduction and headlines0:00 · Matt Deegan introduces the show and runs through the week's media headlines.
  • Interview with Michaela Hallam and Gideon Spanier2:00 · Discussion on audio advertising, branded podcasts, and the summit.
  • Ken Bruce's departure10:00 · Panel discusses Ken Bruce leaving BBC Radio 2 for Greatest Hits Radio.
  • DMG Media restructure18:00 · Analysis of DMG Media's advertising restructure and print decline.
  • SLAPP legislation interview25:00 · James Ball and Franz Wild discuss the new bill to tackle SLAPPs.
  • Adam Shepherd on MA in Podcasting32:00 · Adam Shepherd discusses City University's new MA in Podcasting.
  • Media Quiz38:00 · Michaela and Gideon compete in the first media quiz of 2023.

Notable quotes

“We like to call ourselves the critical friend because we wouldn't be doing our job if we weren't challenging them on the area that we know we're experts in.”

Michaela Hallam · 0:00

“I think that the BBC needs to I've come from 20 years at the BBC I love the BBC I learned I learnt a lot there but they can't be everything to every person and so if they look at potentially One of their roles being a talent incubator with the inevitability, inevitability of that talent then moving on for whatever reason.”

Michaela Hallam · 0:00

“I hate it when anyone uses their job.”

Gideon Spanier · 0:00

“I just think somewhere along the line, we know what the BBC stands for. And if this is a very senior appointment and you've been making instructions to the Prime Minister, you should just declare it.”

Gideon Spanier · 0:00

“If anybody wants to facilitate me alone, exchange some favours, I'm very open to it. I just want to say that now.”

Matt Deegan · 0:00

Discussed

BBC · Campaign · Fresh Air Production · PodPod · The Bureau of Investigative Journalism · DMG Media

Also mentioned: Ken Bruce · Richard Sharp · Boris Johnson · Nadhim Zahawi · Catherine Belton · Tom Burgis · Roman Kemp · Tim Davie · David Davis · Bob Seely · Margaret Hodge · Liam Byrne · Dan Neidle · Elon Musk · Greatest Hits Radio · Netflix · Spotify · News Corp · Fox Group · The Guardian · Daily Mirror · Twitter · City University · Solicitors Regulation Authority

Mentioned or recommended

  • PopMaster · other
  • Putin's People · book · Catherine Belton
  • Kleptopia · book · Tom Burgis
  • The Great British Bake Off · tv show · Love Productions
  • Squid Game: The Challenge · tv show · Netflix
  • MA in Podcasting · other · City University