Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 8 November 2024 · 43 min

Let The Hand Wringing Begin

With Alex Farber, Miranda Sawyer, Will Wood

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan is joined by Alex Farber, media correspondent for The Times, to discuss the media's coverage of the US election night and the implications of Donald Trump's victory for the industry. They explore the rise of podcasting as a political platform, the challenges facing traditional media, and the BBC's charter renewal debate. Later, Miranda Sawyer, audio critic for The Observer, discusses her new book 'Uncommon People' and the potential sale of The Observer to Tortoise, expressing concerns about transparency and the future of the paper. Will Wood, CEO of Multitude Media, shares insights on PR in the current media landscape, and the episode concludes with the Media Quiz.

Key takeaways

  • The panel discussed the media's coverage of the US election night, with Channel 4's coverage singled out for praise.
  • Alex Farber and Will Wood debated the growing importance of podcasts as political platforms, citing Trump's appearance on Joe Rogan.
  • Samir Shah, the new BBC chair, argued for a permanent royal charter to end the cycle of periodic reviews.
  • Miranda Sawyer expressed concerns about the proposed sale of The Observer to Tortoise, citing lack of transparency and potential job losses.
  • Will Wood highlighted the challenges and opportunities for PR in the current media landscape, mentioning upcoming projects like House of Guinness.

In this episode

  • Intro and Guest Nominations0:00 · Host Matt Deegan welcomes guests and they nominate people to join the club.
  • US Election Coverage Discussion5:00 · Panel discusses how the media covered the US election night and the implications of Trump's victory.
  • BBC Charter Renewal Debate15:00 · Discussion on Samir Shah's comments about the BBC's royal charter.
  • Google AI and Publisher Compensation20:00 · Panel talks about Google's AI crawler and the FT's letter to the House of Lords.
  • Interview with Miranda Sawyer25:00 · Miranda Sawyer discusses her book 'Uncommon People' and the Observer-Tortoise sale.
  • Will Wood on Multitude Media35:00 · Will Wood talks about his PR company and upcoming projects.
  • Media Quiz40:00 · The panel plays the media quiz, guessing quotes from the week.
  • Outro45:00 · Wrap-up and how to keep up with guests.

Notable quotes

“I'm actually going to break the rules, which is poor form given this was my first appearance. I might never be asked back.”

Will Wood · 0:00

“I'm going to put Elon Musk maybe to the membership committee. We'll see what they say about him.”

Matt Deegan · 0:00

“I think it will be really interesting because I think anybody covering news, it feels like the core narrative throughout the build-up was this is going to be on a kind of a knife edge and actually and even pollsters.”

Will Wood · 0:00

“I'm just listening to what Will's saying and that questionnaire. I don't think it's an either-or. I think it can be a both and.”

Alex Farber · 0:00

“I'm staunchly pro-BBC and I'll be out on the streets marching if I ever feel, as we nearly did under previous administrations, that it was at threat.”

Will Wood · 0:00

“I think the media's key role there is holding power to account. And, you know, popular podcasts won't always do that with the same level of scrutiny as a BBC or a. Certain other platforms.”

Will Wood · 0:00

Discussed

BBC · The Observer · Tortoise · Multitude Media

Also mentioned: Donald Trump · Elon Musk · Joe Rogan · Samir Shah · Jeremy Clarkson · Chris McCausland · Frank Skinner · Stacey Dooley · Asma Meer · Sarah Cox · Nikki Chapman · Ben Ashendon · Elaine Penn · Graham Kibble White · The Times · The Guardian · Google · Netflix · Channel 4 · Sky · ITV · Bauer · The Telegraph · The Athletic

Mentioned or recommended

  • Uncommon People · book · Miranda Sawyer
  • Clarkson's Farm · tv show
  • House of Guinness · tv show · Stephen Knight
  • Gladiators · tv show
  • Joe Rogan Experience · podcast · Joe Rogan
  • The Rest Is Politics · podcast