Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 30 June 2023 · 43 min

Netflix vs the UK, Poaching Googlebox & A Farewell to National Geographic

With Miranda Sawyer, Karin Robinson

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In this episode of The Media Podcast, host Matt Deegan is joined by journalist and broadcaster Miranda Sawyer and Edelman's Karin Robinson to discuss the week's media news. Topics include Netflix's concerns over the draft Media Bill and Ofcom's jurisdiction, National Geographic laying off its remaining staff writers, ITV's attempt to poach Gogglebox from Channel 4, a decline in NUJ membership, the appointment of Elan Closs Stephens as acting BBC chair, and Ryan Reynolds' deal with S4C to bring Welsh-language programming to the US. The episode also features a media quiz segment titled 'Blood, Sweat, and Tears'.

Key takeaways

  • Netflix has raised concerns about Ofcom's jurisdiction under the draft Media Bill, fearing it could become a global regulator.
  • National Geographic is laying off its remaining staff writers and will no longer be sold on US newsstands, relying solely on freelancers.
  • ITV attempted to poach Gogglebox from Channel 4, but Channel 4 retained the show.
  • NUJ membership has dropped 21% in a decade, despite journalist numbers reportedly increasing.
  • Elan Closs Stephens has been appointed acting BBC chair, aiming to rebuild the BBC's reputation after the Richard Sharp debacle.
  • Ryan Reynolds has signed a deal with S4C to produce Welsh-language programming for the US market.

In this episode

  • Introduction and news round-up0:00 · Matt introduces the show and covers quick news items including Sarah Putt's BAFTA appointment and All3Media's revenue.
  • Interview with Miranda Sawyer on Paper Cuts2:00 · Miranda discusses her new podcast Paper Cuts and the state of newspaper journalism.
  • Netflix vs Ofcom discussion8:00 · Panel discusses Netflix's concerns about Ofcom's jurisdiction under the draft Media Bill.
  • National Geographic layoffs discussion15:00 · Panel discusses National Geographic's decision to lay off staff writers and rely on freelancers.
  • ITV poaching Gogglebox discussion22:00 · Panel discusses ITV's attempt to acquire Gogglebox from Channel 4.
  • News in brief: NUJ membership decline28:00 · Panel discusses the decline in NUJ membership and its implications.
  • BBC chair appointment discussion32:00 · Panel discusses Elan Closs Stephens' appointment as acting BBC chair.
  • Ryan Reynolds S4C deal discussion36:00 · Panel discusses Ryan Reynolds' deal with S4C to produce Welsh-language programming.
  • Media quiz: Blood, Sweat, and Tears40:00 · Quiz segment where panel guesses whether media brands faced blood, sweat, or tears.
  • Wrap-up and credits48:00 · Matt thanks guests and promotes the London Podcast Studios.

Notable quotes

“I'll never understand how something can sell 1.8 million copies a month and still not be profitable.”

James Ball · 0:00

“It's going to come off the newsstands, but it's still going to be a great magazine.”

National Geographic boss · 0:00

“I think back off. You know, that's not the, you know, I'm aware that the BBC is publicly funded, but actually, to me, that means that you answer to the people, not to the politicians.”

Miranda Sawyer · 0:00

“I think it's a loss, and it's a loss not just because we're shifting from paper to online, because you can deliver good stories in either way, but because the stories themselves will be different, and that's a shame.”

Karin Robinson · 0:00

Discussed

Netflix · Ofcom · National Geographic · ITV · Channel 4 · BBC · S4C · NUJ

Also mentioned: Anne Leslie · Ed Balls · George Osborne · Elan Closs Stephens · Richard Sharp · Ryan Reynolds · James Ball · Nadine Dorries · Sarah Putt · Studio Lambert · All3Media · Disney · Meta · SiriusXM · Spotify · Apple · The New York Times · The Sun · LBC · Daily Mail · BAFTA · The Observer · Vogue · The Face

Mentioned or recommended

  • Paper Cuts · podcast · Miranda Sawyer
  • Gogglebox · tv show · Studio Lambert
  • The Traitors · tv show · Studio Lambert
  • Big Brother · tv show · Endemol
  • Love Island · tv show · ITV Studios
  • The Great British Bake Off · tv show · Love Productions
  • Pointless · tv show · BBC
  • Extraction 2 · film · Netflix
  • Stitcher · product · SiriusXM
  • Wrexham AFC · other
  • The Media Bill · other · UK Government