Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 17 May 2022 · 43 min

Thank you, Malmö: Radiodays Europe 2022

With James Cridland, Paul Robinson, Stephanie Hirst, Helen Thomas, Julie Shapiro

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In this special episode recorded at Radiodays Europe 2022 in Malmö, host Matt Deegan interviews radio industry figures about the state of the medium. Helen Thomas, Head of BBC Radio 2, and Stephanie Hirst, presenter at Hits Radio, discuss what makes a great radio presenter, the importance of authenticity and relatability, and how radio competes with platforms like TikTok and YouTube for talent. Julie Shapiro, VP of Editorial at PRX and Radiotopia, shares insights into the US podcasting landscape and offers advice on crafting successful podcast pitches. Regulars James Cridland and Paul Robinson join for a discussion on the future of podcasting, including the potential for a streaming war in audio and the role of platforms like Spotify and YouTube. The episode also features a media quiz segment.

Key takeaways

  • Helen Thomas and Stephanie Hirst discussed the qualities of a great radio presenter, emphasising authenticity, relatability, and the importance of listening.
  • Julie Shapiro shared insights into PRX and Radiotopia's model, highlighting the importance of ownership, persistence, and having a game plan for podcast pitches.
  • James Cridland and Paul Robinson debated the future of podcasting, including the potential for a streaming war and the role of platforms like Spotify and YouTube.
  • The episode was recorded at Radiodays Europe 2022 in Malmö, featuring interviews with industry leaders and a media quiz segment.
  • The BBC announced plans for Radio 2 Live in Leeds and a partnership with The One Show for a 'Go Green' initiative.

In this episode

  • Introduction and Listener Survey0:00 · Matt Deegan introduces the episode and promotes the listener survey.
  • Interview with Stephanie Hirst and Helen Thomas2:00 · Discussion on what makes a great radio presenter and the state of radio.
  • Interview with Julie Shapiro20:00 · Julie Shapiro discusses PRX, Radiotopia, and podcast pitching.
  • Podnews Discussion with James Cridland and Paul Robinson35:00 · Discussion on the future of podcasting and streaming wars.
  • Media Quiz: Name That Story50:00 · A quiz segment with media headlines.
  • Outro and Patreon Plug60:00 · Wrap-up and promotion of Patreon and Riverside.fm.

Notable quotes

“Authenticity wins every time. The listeners will see straight through you.”

Stephanie Hirst · 0:00

“The key is always listen. If you've got the next question written down that you're going to go to, maybe that's not the right question to ask next.”

Stephanie Hirst · 0:00

“I think we're heading into a golden age of radio. I think personality radio is really back now because, you know, there's Spotify and then podcasts coming into the arena. Whereas what we've got with radio is humans and they haven't got humans.”

Stephanie Hirst · 0:00

“It's a huge dining room table with 1,200 chairs around it.”

Paul Robinson · 0:00

“The three P's of podcasting. It doesn't come quick, contrary to popular belief, where you just put out a show and immediately it's got a million listeners.”

Julie Shapiro · 0:00

Discussed

BBC Radio 2 · PRX · Radiotopia

Also mentioned: Johan Cedeforce · Roman Mars · Ken Bruce · Ntsiki Mpofu · Grant Black · David Tennant · Catherine Tate · Ncuti Gatwa · Russell T Davies · Jodie Whittaker · Wayne Rooney · Rebekah Vardy · Coleen Rooney · Piers Morgan · Jamie Vardy · Hits Radio · Spotify · YouTube · Apple · Bauer Media · Radio Academy · BBC Radio 1 · NRK · Radio France

Mentioned or recommended

  • Radiodays Europe 2022 · event
  • PopMaster · other
  • Ear Hustle · other · Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods
  • 99% Invisible · other · Roman Mars
  • This American Life · other · Ira Glass
  • The Moth · other
  • Doctor Who · tv show · BBC
  • Sex Education · tv show · Netflix
  • Eurovision Song Contest 2022 · event
  • Wagatha Christie trial · event
  • Piers Morgan Uncensored · tv show · TalkTV
  • Radio 2 Live in Leeds · event · BBC Radio 2
  • Glastonbury Festival · event
  • The One Show · tv show · BBC