Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 21 March 2025 · 38 min

This Podcast Was Shot In One Take*

With Iain Coyle, Kate Bulkley

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan is joined by Iain Coyle, former UKTV commissioner and now boss of indie Square Pears, and Kate Bulkley, a media business journalist. They discuss the ongoing crisis in British television, including the impact of streaming platforms, the debate over secondary rights, and the challenges of funding public service broadcasting. The conversation also covers the closure of Voice of America under the Trump administration and its implications for Western media and the BBC World Service. The episode includes a segment on the making of Netflix's 'Adolescence', a one-take drama, and a recap of the Broadcast Press Guild Awards winners. The show ends with a media quiz themed around Jeopardy.

Key takeaways

  • Iain Coyle, former UKTV commissioner, has launched indie Square Pears to navigate the TV crisis by moving into online and branded content.
  • Kate Bulkley and Iain Coyle discussed the closure of Voice of America under Trump, with concerns about its impact on Western media and the potential for the BBC World Service to fill the gap.
  • Netflix's 'Adolescence' was praised for its one-take filming technique, with each episode taking at least 10 takes over five days.
  • The Broadcast Press Guild Awards winners included 'Mr Bates vs The Post Office' for Best Drama, 'Gavin and Stacey: The Finale' for Best Comedy, and Jane Featherstone receiving the Harvey Lee Award.
  • The episode highlighted the debate over secondary rights bundling, which could affect how UK indies monetise their content.

In this episode

  • Intro and Guest Introductions0:00 · Matt introduces guests Iain Coyle and Kate Bulkley, and they share their media picks of the week.
  • TV Crisis Discussion5:00 · Discussion on the UK TV crisis, Liz Murdoch's comments, and the issue of secondary rights.
  • Voice of America and World Service15:00 · Analysis of Trump's closure of VOA and its implications for the BBC World Service.
  • Ad Break20:00 · Sponsor messages from Podcast Discovery and Podshop Studios.
  • News Round-up22:00 · Matt recaps top media stories including RTS Gaza controversy, Guardian consent or pay, and Adolescence filming secrets.
  • Adolescence Deep Dive25:00 · Iain and Kate discuss the making and impact of Netflix's Adolescence.
  • Broadcast Press Guild Awards30:00 · Kate recaps the winners of the BPG Awards.
  • Square Pears and Branded Content35:00 · Iain talks about his new indie and the shift to branded content.
  • Media Quiz: Jeopardy40:00 · Quiz segment with questions themed around Jeopardy, River City, and F1 rights.
  • Outro45:00 · Wrap-up and how to follow guests.

Notable quotes

“It's a different business. I mean, we're trying to navigate the collapse of television by moving a little bit more into online and moving into branded space.”

Iain Coyle · 0:00

“I just find it galling when the Murdochs, or rather her father, has spent decades trying to destroy British broadcasting in his own image to then for them to start saying, oh, yes, it's really, really awful.”

Iain Coyle · 0:00

“I think the big one right now is this bundling of rights of primary and secondary rights. This is a huge issue.”

Kate Bulkley · 0:00

“I think we have to look at, I mean, the landscape's completely changed, and I think they almost need to retract and sit down together, BBC, Channel 4, and ITV, and work out some sort of deal whether they can either work together or a loosening of handcuffs.”

Iain Coyle · 0:00

“I mean, it's very scary. So there's a lot going on in terms of, let's say, suppression of the media in general to support what I would call, without pulling any punches, the fascist overtake of America.”

Kate Bulkley · 0:00

“I think it's one of the last bastions of British pride, I think.”

Iain Coyle · 0:00

Discussed

BBC · Netflix · Voice of America · Square Pears

Also mentioned: Liz Murdoch · Stephen Graham · Jane Featherstone · Jack Thorne · Stephen Fry · Danny Dyer · Jessica Gunning · Anne Mensah · Rupert Murdoch · Donald Trump · Jonathan Dimbleby · Bella Maclean · Joan Meve · Channel 4 · ITV · Sister · UKTV · PACT · Royal Television Society · The Guardian · BBC Radio 5 Live

Mentioned or recommended

  • Adolescence · tv show · Netflix
  • Broadcast Press Guild Awards · event
  • Jeopardy UK · tv show · ITV
  • River City · tv show · BBC
  • Mr Bates vs The Post Office · tv show · ITV
  • Gavin and Stacey: The Finale · tv show · BBC
  • Baby Reindeer · tv show · Netflix
  • Rivals · tv show · Disney+
  • Freddie Flintoff's Field of Dreams on Tour · tv show · BBC
  • Black Doves · tv show · Netflix
  • Squid Game · tv show · Netflix