Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 22 March 2024 · 46 min

BBC Radio... with Ads? What It Means For The Audio Sector

With Alex Farber, Faraz Osman, James Cridland, Chris Burns

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan and guests Alex Farber, Faraz Osman, and James Cridland discuss the BBC's plans to introduce advertising on its audio output when distributed on third-party platforms like Apple Podcasts and Spotify, a move that sparks debate about its impact on the UK podcast advertising market and the BBC's commercial strategy. The episode also covers Ofcom's censure of GB News for using politicians as presenters, the ongoing BBC Local Radio strategy with an interview with Chris Burns, and other media news including Channel 4 bonuses, Lisa McGee's new Netflix project, and YMU's sale. The panel also engages in a media quiz and shares insights on industry trends.

Key takeaways

  • The BBC plans to introduce advertising on its audio output on third-party platforms, while keeping BBC Sounds ad-free.
  • Ofcom censured GB News for using politicians as presenters, but GB News has refused to change its approach.
  • BBC Local Radio head Chris Burns defended the new strategy, aiming to reach 50% of England's population.
  • Channel 4 awarded reduced bonuses to top executives, drawing criticism from unions and industry figures.
  • Lisa McGee's new project 'How to Get to Heaven from Belfast' moved to Netflix after Channel 4 passed.
  • YMU was sold to Premier Credit, with questions over talent retention.

In this episode

  • Intro and News Round-up0:00 · Matt Deegan introduces the show and covers top media news stories.
  • Main Discussion: BBC Ads on Third-Party Platforms10:00 · Panel discusses the BBC's plan to introduce ads on third-party audio platforms.
  • GB News Ofcom Censure20:00 · Discussion on Ofcom's ruling against GB News and its implications.
  • Interview with Chris Burns25:00 · Paul Robinson interviews Chris Burns about BBC Local Radio strategy.
  • News in Brief35:00 · Channel 4 bonuses, Lisa McGee Netflix deal, YMU sale, and podcast industry trends.
  • Media Quiz45:00 · The panel plays 'Can You Be More Specific?' quiz.
  • Outro50:00 · Wrap-up and plugs.

Notable quotes

“I think that what it shows is the BBC acknowledging that actually where we would used to think about things being geo-blocked.”

Faraz Osman · 0:00

“I don't think the issue is the audience experience.”

Alex Farber · 0:00

“I'm absolutely committed to local radio.”

Chris Burns · 0:00

“I think that the bonuses should exist to ignite the TV industry at all times.”

Faraz Osman · 0:00

“I think it's important to remember that there's no impartiality rules in Australia at all.”

James Cridland · 0:00

Discussed

BBC · GB News · Channel 4

Also mentioned: Paul Robinson · Jacob Rees-Mogg · Esther McVey · Lisa McGee · Emma Barnett · Martha Kearney · Caroline Hollick · Charlie Brooker · Simon Cowell · Graham Norton · Claudia Winkleman · Richard Tice · Sally Wainwright · Sarah Lancashire · Toby Jones · Andy Harries · Joe Hamilton · Lee Anderson · Greg James · Marianna Spring · Carl Warner · Alf Lawrie · Peter Bazalgette · Siobhan Kenny

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