Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 20 June 2025 · 40 min

New BBC Chief, Cannes Lions and Netflix Goes Linear

With Faraz Osman, Rebecca Cooney, Maisie McCabe

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan is joined by Faraz Osman, founder of TV indie Gold Wala, and Rebecca Cooney, insight editor at Broadcast, to discuss the BBC's appointment of Kate Phillips as its new chief content officer, the move towards self-service TV advertising for small businesses, and Netflix's deal with French broadcaster TF1 to stream linear channels. The panel also covers John McVay's departure from Pact, the Edinburgh TV Festival's small indie bursary, and a quiz on media stories including Jilly Cooper's comments on intimacy coordinators and an AI-generated news site. Campaign's UK editor Maisie McCabe joins from Cannes Lions to discuss AI's impact on creativity and advertising.

Key takeaways

  • Kate Phillips has been appointed as the BBC's new chief content officer, a role covering TV, radio, and online, excluding news.
  • UK commercial broadcasters are collaborating on a self-service advertising platform to target small and medium businesses.
  • Netflix has struck a deal with French broadcaster TF1 to stream its linear channels, marking a move towards linear TV.
  • John McVay is stepping down after 25 years as CEO of Pact, the UK TV trade body.
  • Campaign's UK editor Maisie McCabe reported from Cannes Lions that AI is a major topic, but there is little discussion of its ethical implications.

In this episode

  • Intro and Club Roles0:00 · Matt introduces the show and guests, and they add Kate Phillips and Angela Jain to the club roles.
  • Kate Phillips BBC Appointment0:00 · Discussion of Kate Phillips' appointment as BBC chief content officer and her in-tray.
  • Self-Service TV Advertising0:00 · Rebecca Cooney explains the move towards self-service ads for SMEs.
  • Netflix Goes Linear0:00 · Panel discusses Netflix's deal with TF1 to stream linear channels.
  • Cannes Lions with Maisie McCabe0:00 · Interview with Maisie McCabe about Cannes Lions and AI in advertising.
  • Media Quiz0:00 · Quiz on media stories including Jilly Cooper, AI news site, and Zoe Ball/Jo Whiley podcast.
  • Wrap-up and Outro0:00 · Thanks and sign-off.

Notable quotes

“She's very good at sort of managing different people, managing sort of talent. Like really well respected, really genuinely well liked, I think internally and externally.”

Rebecca Cooney · 0:00

“I think that the biggest, that was the one single biggest issue when it comes to the reason that TV is in such a crisis right now was that decision, which was clearly the wrong decision where we are now.”

Faraz Osman · 0:00

“It's sort of it's it's going. To where the viewers are, right? But is it giving up on those viewers elsewhere? Maybe.”

Rebecca Cooney · 0:00

“This is Netflix. They experiment and they try different things.”

Faraz Osman · 0:00

“I think that the ad break, as it were, becomes of smaller companies, smaller quality. And then when it comes to kind of branded content and the big hero advertiser for that TV show, that becomes a more prized thing.”

Faraz Osman · 0:00

“It's the reverse version of young people think they invented sex. Old people think they invented sex and it was forgotten.”

Rebecca Cooney · 0:00

Discussed

Kate Phillips · BBC · Netflix

Also mentioned: Charlotte Moore · John McVay · Jilly Cooper · Zoe Ball · Jo Whiley · Angela Jain · Tom McDonald · Patrick Holland · Alex Mahon · Anne Menser · Mark Zuckerberg · Sam Coates · Gary Lineker · Miquita Oliver · Lily Allen · Ellie Khan · Gold Wala · Broadcast · Campaign · Pact · ITV · Channel 4 · Sky · TF1

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