Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 19 January 2024 · 49 min

Mirror Editor Goes, Post Office Dramas & Hopes For Local News

With Chris Curtis, Alex Farber, Charlotte Tobitt, Rob Smyth

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan is joined by Chris Curtis (editor, Broadcast Magazine), Alex Farber (Media Editor, The Times), and Charlotte Tobitt (Reporter, Press Gazette) to discuss the resignation of Daily Mirror editor Alison Phillips amid deep cuts at Reach, the success of dramas like Mr Bates vs The Post Office and Fool Me Once, the New York Times' lawsuit against OpenAI, and the state of local news start-ups. The panel also covers Channel 4 job cuts, S4C leadership turmoil, the BBC's sale of Elstree Studios, and the rise of Substack newsletters. A special segment with Rob Smyth explores the surge in local news start-ups and the potential for journalism on Substack. The episode concludes with the 'CelebDAC 2024' quiz.

Key takeaways

  • Alison Phillips resigned as editor of the Daily Mirror amid major cuts at Reach, with Caroline Waterston succeeding her.
  • Mr Bates vs The Post Office became ITV's biggest drama in years, highlighting the power of factual drama to drive public awareness.
  • The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft over copyright infringement, with potential wide implications for media.
  • Local news start-ups like The Mill and The Lead are launching new titles, offering hope for the sector.
  • Channel 4 announced around 200 job cuts, with most expected to come from London.

In this episode

  • Intro and News Round-up0:00 · Matt introduces the show and covers top media news stories.
  • Main Discussion: Mirror Editor and Reach0:00 · Panel discusses Alison Phillips' resignation and Reach's job cuts.
  • Deep Dive: Local News Start-ups0:00 · Rob Smyth discusses the rise of local news start-ups and Substack.
  • News in Brief0:00 · Panel covers Channel 4 cuts, S4C, BBC Elstree sale, and more.
  • Media Quiz: CelebDAC 20240:00 · Quiz on celebrity stock changes.
  • Outro0:00 · Wrap-up and credits.

Notable quotes

“in the age of limitless choice and streaming nirvana, I spent last night happily flicking between 90-minute Love Island All-Stars and a rather good 2018 repeat of 24 hours in police custody, all whilst wishing away 48 hours so that I can go and watch more traitors.”

Chris Curtis · 0:00

“If you have brilliant shows, then people will watch it.”

Chris Curtis · 0:00

“We don't need New York Times. One individual content provider isn't that important to us.”

Sam Altman · 0:00

“many, many media companies could liquidate because that's how serious threat it poses.”

Roger Lynch · 0:00

“I revere the white, pale, male, stale presenters.”

Amol Rajan · 0:00

“let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater here.”

Amol Rajan · 0:00

Discussed

Reach plc · Daily Mirror · BBC · ITV · Channel 4 · S4C · OpenAI · New York Times

Also mentioned: Alison Phillips · Caroline Waterston · Mark Thompson · Annie Nightingale · Sam Altman · Roger Lynch · Amol Rajan · Clive Myrie · Sandi Toksvig · Jim Mullen · Nick Wallis · Rebecca Thomson · Karl Flinders · Richard Brooks · Alan Bates · Alex Mahon · Ian Katz · Rodri Williams · Lucy Frazer · Carol Vorderman · Ed Balls · George Osborne · John Oliver · Gary Lineker

Mentioned or recommended

  • Mr Bates vs The Post Office · tv show · ITV
  • Fool Me Once · tv show · ITV Studios
  • The Traitors · tv show · BBC
  • Gladiators · tv show · BBC
  • Love Island All Stars · tv show · ITV
  • 24 Hours in Police Custody · tv show · Channel 4
  • University Challenge · tv show · BBC
  • Mastermind · tv show · BBC
  • QI · tv show · BBC
  • Good Morning Britain · tv show · ITV
  • Have I Got News for You · tv show · BBC
  • Last Week Tonight with John Oliver · tv show · HBO
  • The Two Matts · podcast · The New European
  • The Media Podcast · podcast · Rethink Audio
  • Elstree Studios · other