• Creator Economy
• MIPCOM 2025
• Video Games and Anime as IP
• Podcast Video and Streaming Deals
• Subscription Bundling
• BBC Commercial Audio
• Celebrity Traitors
• SNL UK

In this episode of The Media Club, hosts Matt Deegan, Tara Conlan, and Thomas Curry discuss the latest media news, focusing on MIPCOM 2025 where YouTube's presence marked a shift towards the creator economy. They explore how traditional broadcasters are partnering with creators and leveraging IP from video games and anime. The conversation also covers Spotify's deal with Netflix to host podcasts, the UKTV and Channel 4 streaming partnership, and the Daily Mail's TikTok strategy. Thomas Curry, from BBC Studios, shares insights into the commercial audio sector, including ad insertion in BBC programmes for international audiences. The episode includes a quiz segment and discussions on Celebrity Traitors, Marc Maron's podcast ending, and the upcoming UK version of Saturday Night Live.

Key takeaways

• YouTube's major presence at MIPCOM 2025 signals a shift towards the creator economy in TV.
• Sony Pictures TV highlighted video games and anime as key IP battlegrounds.
• Netflix and Spotify struck a deal for Netflix to host some original podcasts on Spotify.
• UKTV and Channel 4 announced a streaming partnership, putting UKTV content on Channel 4's platform.
• The Daily Mail is doubling down on TikTok and Instagram content.
• BBC Studios is expanding its commercial audio operations, including ad insertion in BBC programmes for international audiences.
• Marc Maron ended his podcast WTF, and Rebecca Frank left KISS.
• Jimmy Fallon commented that SNL UK should be the endgame for comedians.

In this episode

• Intro and listener survey0:00 · Host Matt Deegan welcomes listeners and introduces the episode.
• MIPCOM discussion2:00 · Discussion on YouTube's presence at MIPCOM and the creator economy.
• Netflix-Spotify deal10:00 · Analysis of the Netflix-Spotify podcast deal.
• UKTV-Channel 4 partnership15:00 · Discussion on the UKTV-Channel 4 streaming deal.
• Daily Mail TikTok strategy18:00 · Brief segment on Daily Mail's TikTok and Instagram content.
• BBC Studios interview20:00 · Thomas Curry discusses BBC Studios' commercial audio work.
• Celebrity Traitors discussion25:00 · Panel discusses Celebrity Traitors and celebrity personas.
• Audio Network Media Quiz30:00 · Quiz segment with post-apocalyptic treatments of media stories.
• Wrap-up35:00 · Final thanks and where to find guests online.

Notable quotes

“Creator Economy eats TV's lunch at Cannes Confab”

Matt Deegan · 0:00

“I'm just an old ham. I'm just an old ham.”

Kate Garraway · 0:00

“We found our new Melvin.”

Thomas Curry · 0:00

“It's the destination, as Jimmy was saying.”

Tara Conlan · 0:00

Discussed

YouTube · Netflix · Spotify · BBC Studios · Channel 4 · UKTV · Daily Mail · BBC

Also mentioned: Marc Maron · Jimmy Fallon · Melvyn Bragg · John Oliver · Bari Weiss · Rebecca Frank · Kate Garraway · Nick Mohammed · Jonathan Ross · Stu Rogers · Keith Le Goy · Ashley Carman · Mira Kumar · Lisa Nandy · Jimmy Kimmel · Josh Berry · George Lewis · Sony Pictures Television · Mattel · The Ringer · CBS News · Sky · Crunchyroll · ITVX

Mentioned or recommended

• MIPCOM · event
• The Office · tv show · Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant
• In Our Time · tv show · BBC Radio 4
• Just a Minute · tv show · BBC Radio 4
• The Global Story · tv show · BBC
• Celebrity Traitors · tv show · BBC
• Saturday Night Live · tv show · Lorne Michaels
• WTF with Marc Maron · podcast · Marc Maron
• The Big Pitch · tv show · BBC Studios
• Magic 8 Ball · product · Mattel
• Minecraft · product · Mojang Studios
• Baldur's Gate · product · Larian Studios
• Critical Role · tv show · Critical Role Productions
• Dungeons & Dragons · product · Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson
• Slow Horses · tv show · Apple TV+
• Last One Laughing · tv show · Amazon
• Move Over Mother Teresa · other · Mira Kumar
• The Media Club · podcast · Rethink Audio