Matt Deegan

The Media Club · 16 January 2026 · 43 min

Goalhanger Breaks New Records, Superindies Plan Merger

With Alex Zane, Conrad Withy

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In this episode of The Media Club, host Matt Deegan is joined by broadcaster Alex Zane and Goalhanger's Chief Commercial Officer Conrad Withy. They discuss Goalhanger reaching 250,000 paying members, the proposed merger between Banijay and All3Media, Google's stance on AI training using freely available content, Stephen Graham's first-look deal with Disney+, and the departures of Cathy Newman from Channel 4 and Amol Rajan from the Today programme. The episode also features the Audio Network Media Quiz, where the team identifies media properties based on clues.

Key takeaways

  • Goalhanger has reached 250,000 paying members, generating over £1 million per month in subscription revenue.
  • Banijay and All3Media are in talks to merge, potentially creating a 'super indie' with significant bargaining power.
  • Google argues it should not pay for AI training on freely available content, sparking debate about the impact on publishers.
  • Stephen Graham's production company Matriarch has signed a first-look deal with Disney+.
  • Cathy Newman is leaving Channel 4 for Sky News, and Amol Rajan is leaving the Today programme to become a creator.

In this episode

  • Intro and Plus One0:00 · Matt introduces the show and Alex Zane picks Jack O'Connell as his plus one.
  • News Round-Up2:00 · Discussion of Banijay-All3Media merger, Google AI, Stephen Graham deal, and talent moves.
  • Interview with Conrad Withy12:00 · Goalhanger's CCO discusses the 250k members milestone and strategy.
  • Audio Network Media Quiz30:00 · Quiz on media properties with Grand Designs theme.
  • Outro40:00 · Thanks and plugs.

Notable quotes

“We've hit a pretty key milestone. We've now got 250,000 paying members across our clubs.”

Conrad Withy · 0:00

“I think for all three media, because they were maybe in talks to buy ITV Studios division, and now they're kind of teaming up with Banner J. And them talking about merging with ITV Studios meant Banner Jay went, well, hang on a sec, what about us?”

Matt Deegan · 0:00

“I mean, fundamentally, I do think it's okay.”

Alex Zane · 0:00

“It's great for Disney, though. I mean, of all the British program makers to have this first-look deal with Matriarch Productions, his production company, he's making the most authentic British TV.”

Alex Zane · 0:00

“I think you reach a point in your career where you just kind of want to have it from the ground up.”

Alex Zane · 0:00

Discussed

Goalhanger

Also mentioned: Cathy Newman · Amol Rajan · Stephen Graham · Jack O'Connell · Tom Holland · Gary Lineker · Michael Stevens · Tom Fletcher · Elizabeth Day · Maggie Aderin-Pocock · Anthony Scaramucci · Mickey Rourke · Banijay · All3Media · ITV · Google · Disney+ · Channel 4 · Sky News · BBC · Netflix · Warner Bros. Discovery · YouTube · GB News

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